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So, I'm back at "where should I move this account?"

I thought Akkomane was the answer, unfortunately, it was not.
There wasn't any one deal breaker, but a few tiny ones that added up.

Namely: it doesn't work with Bridgy Fed, Thumbnails didn't appear when I shared links for some reason, and also it doesn't seem to be able to communicate with Wordpress sites that have the ActivityPub plugin.

So, I'm back to square one.

As a reminder: I want to leave Firefish for two reasons:
1. It's dead. While it's still working great, it will not receive anymore updates ever.
2. Its API doesn't work with many apps (I'd love to be able to use this account with Surf or OpenVibe and such, and I can't)

Part of me thinks about merging this account with my Mastodon account, but I don't know. I like having two accounts talking roughly about different things (even if the limit is somewhat porous).

Another Mastodon account? I'd like to have this account not on Mastodon, basically.

Misskey and forks? (Firefish being one.) Maybe, but after having used Firefish for about two years, I think those are great if you're a community on the same server (i.e. most people on the same server know and follow each other), otherwise, there are too many functions I end up never using. Also, the problem with the API is the same as with Firefish, I believe.

The new IceShrimp (the dot NET one): I'd love to try it, but it's still in beta (anyone knows of a server where I can see what it looks like?)

Something else?
GoToSocial? I admit I'm not too familiar with it. Is there a way to try it without having to install everything on a server and such?


What I'd like is something that allows long posts like this one (I can be talkative and threads of posts are annoying).

Something using Mastodon API so that it is compatible with most apps.

Something that can communicate well with all or most of the Fediverse (including Bridgy Fed, Wordpress ActivityPub, etc.)

(ideally, a server where I know and trust the admin, but that's only in an ideal world)

Any idea I may not be aware of (note that my technical skills are somewhat limited, and no, I can't install something myself on a machine or a server)

#Fediverse #Firefish #Mastodon #IceShrimp

Mastodon-Client-API

Auch wenn sich im #Fediverse viel um #ActivityPub dreht und hier durchaus auch eine #Client-Schnittstelle skizziert ist, nutzt #Mastodon eine eigene Client-API, die (zumindest teilweise) auch von anderer fediversaler Serversoftware unterstützt wird (z.B. #Friendica, #Firefish, #Mammuthus).

Diese #API (application programming interface, eine #Schnittstelle zur #Programmierung von Anwendungen) dient Apps und Clients dazu, entsprechende Funktionen auf einer #Instanz durchzuführen. Diese API ermöglicht die Entwicklung von Apps wie #Tusky, #Fedilab & Co.

Man kann diese API auch nutzen, um Konten etwa (teil)automatisiert zu betreiben.

Oder Statistiken zu sammeln... oder... oder... ;-)

Die API ist soweit öffentlich dokumentiert und steht frei zur Verfügung.

Allgemeine Dokumentation zu #Mastodon (auf Englisch):
https://docs.joinmastodon.org/

"Getting started with the API":
https://docs.joinmastodon.org/client/intro/

Wer mit dem Gedanken spielt, die API zu nutzen, sollte sich mit #HTTP, #JSON & Co. anfreunden können. Und Englischkenntnisse sind in diesem Bereich grundsätzlich von Vorteil...

docs.joinmastodon.orgMastodon documentationWelcome to the Mastodon documentation!

Du schreibst immer mal wieder Posts, die du zu einem Thread zusammenfügen fügen musst, weil sie mehr als 500 Zeichen haben (was definitiv nicht schön aussieht in der TL) und auf der Suche nach einer guten Alternative dazu?

Dann probiere doch mal eine andere #Fediverse #Plattform aus.

Hier pflege ich eine Liste mit offenen Instanzen, wo man mindestens 3000 Zeichen schreiben kann.

https://contentnation.net/de/favstarmafia/sharkey

Außerdem kann man zum Beispiel mit
#Sharkey Accountlisten verwenden, ohne dass man dazu den Accounts folgen muss.

Falls dir diese neue Sicht auf das Fediverse gefällt, dann kannst du sogar deinen Mastodon Account dorthin
umziehen.

Was musst du machen, um das mal auszuprobieren
1. Such dir eine Instanz aus, die dir gefallen könnte.
2. Lege dort einen Account an.
3. Exportiere (/settings/export) dein "Folge ich" Accounts in eine CSV Datei.
4. Importiere (/settings/import-export) die Datei in deinen neuen Account unter "Gefolgte Benutzer Import".
5. Viel Spaß beim Ausprobieren!


Eine Einführung in die neue Plattform findest du
hier.

#Calckey #Firefish #Sharkey #Iceshrimp

Content Nation · FavStarMafia - Sharkey & Iceshrimp Instanzen - Content NationLinklisteSharkeyIceShrimp...

Whalebird v6.2.1
=> whalebird.social
Whalebird is a Fediverse client app for desktop.
An Electron based Mastodon, Pleroma, and Misskey client for Windows, Mac, and Linux
Feature
- An interface like slack
- Notify to desktop
- Streaming
- Many keyboard shortcuts
- Manage multiple accounts
Changelog:
=> github.com/h3poteto/whalebird-
#Fediverse #Mastodon #Pleroma #Friendica #Firefish #Gotosocial

whalebird.socialWhalebirdSingle-column Fediverse client for desktop
@PaulaToThePeople @Stefan Bohacek Keep one thing in mind:

Mastodon may not have quote-posts yet. But the Fediverse has quote-posts right now. And it has had them since before Mastodon was made.

Pleroma, Akkoma, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp, CherryPick, Catodon, Meisskey, Tanukey, Neko, dozens of other Misskey forks, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte etc. etc., they all have quote-posts. They're all fully capable of quote-posting any Mastodon toot.

None of them has introduced quote-posts to harass Twitter refugees on Mastodon. At least Friendica and Hubzilla have had quote-posts since long before Mastodon was even made.

You will be able to choose whether your posts can be quoted at all.

At least by Mastodon users.

But since this will be Mastodon re-inventing the wheel with brand-new, proprietary, Mastodon-only technology, everything I've listed above will still be able to quote-post anyone and anything on Mastodon with zero resistance.

To quote-post myself and the guy who invented Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte:

Jupiter Rowland schrieb den folgenden Beitrag Sat, 20 Jul 2024 01:29:11 +0200 I think I've just chased someone out of the Fediverse.

That someone was afraid of Mastodon being "screwed over" by becoming quote-post-able.

I've told him the truth: Mastodon has been quote-post-able for as long as it has been around. Mastodon became quote-post-able the very moment it was launched.

That's because when Mastodon was launched, it immediately federated with Friendica which is from 2010, which had been around for almost six years at that point, and which has had quote-posts from its own inception AFAIK. Mastodon also immediately federated with Hubzilla which has had quote-posts since its own inception, since it had been forked from Friendica, and that was in 2012.

Mastodon has never been un-quote-post-able.

Right now, there are dozens of Fediverse server apps whose users can quote-post Mastodon toots with no resistance.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #QuotePostDebate #QuoteTootDebate
Mike Macgirvin 🖥️ schrieb den folgenden Beitrag Sat, 20 Jul 2024 03:18:39 +0200 The closest you'll ever get to making Mastodon un-quote-postable is to post privately. Not unlisted. Private. Most fediverse software will honour this today; and it doesn't require yet another "pretend permission". Like unlisted.

And Mike should know. He brought things to the Fediverse like actually working permissions. Including permissions on two levels to quote-post any content on a channel. Readily available right now at least on Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte.

Also, this is what people on Friendica and its descendants have been using quote-posts for since 2010.

You will be notified when someone quotes you.

You already are when someone on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) or Forte quote-posts one of your posts.

As for Pleroma, Misskey and their forks, you aren't notified right now, and I've got my doubts that you will be after this change.

Also, "quote" and "quote-post" are two different things. Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte can do both. "Quote" is what I'm doing right here. Whether or not you're notified depends on whether or not you're mentioned.

And blocking quotes is even less possible. A quote only consists of a pair of BBcode tags plus the quoted text in-between. And on Friendica and all its descendants, you don't work with a WYSIWYG editor by default, but you have to get your hands dirty on raw markup code.

You will be able to withdraw your post from the quoted context at any time.

Again, probably not if someone on Pleroma, Misskey or one of their forks quote-posts you.

And definitely not if someone on Friendica or one of its descendants quote-posts you.

The difference is that a quote-post on Pleroma, Misskey or one of their forks is actually a reference to the original. On Friendica and its descendants, a quote-post is an automatically generated dumb copy of the original.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Calckey #Firefish #Iceshrimp #CherryPick #Sharkey #Catodon #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #QuotePostDebate #QuoteTootDebate

(Fr) Est ce que dans tout le panel de logiciels qui font le fediverse il y en a un qui permet d'utiliser son nom de domaine ? Comme bluesky le fait.

(En) Is there a fediverse software that allows you to use your domain name? Like bluesky does.

bsky.social/about/blog/4-28-20

BlueskyHow to verify your Bluesky account - BlueskyHere's how to verify your Bluesky account by setting your website as your username.
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@JustBob Discord has completely warped the term "server" for entire generations of Internet users. On Discord, "server" means "chatroom".

In the Fediverse, "server" doesn't mean "chatroom". It means "server". A computer.

For example, a rack computer with no screen and no keyboard and no mouse bolted into a server rack at a data centre.

Or an old laptop that someone had lying around or a Raspberry Pi mini-computer running at someone's home, connected to their landline.

On each one of these, a big or small Twitter can be running (Mastodon).

Or a wholly different Twitter (Pleroma, Akkoma, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp, Sharkey, Catodon, Meisskey, Tanukey, Neko...).

(Here's the first important new thing for you to learn about the Fediverse: The Fediverse is not only Mastodon.)

Or a Facebook with a side of a blog and a cloud server (Friendica, (streams), Forte).

(Here's the second important new thing for you to learn about the Fediverse: The Fediverse is not only short-form microblogging. Look at this comment. Look at what I've done. Embedded links. Bold type. Impossible on Mastodon. But possible elsewhere in the Fediverse.)

Or a Facebook meets WordPress meets Google Cloud Services meets even more stuff on top (Hubzilla; this is where I am).

Or an Instagram (Pixelfed).

Or a YouTube (PeerTube).

Or a Twitch (Owncast).

Or a Reddit (Lemmy, /kbin, Mbin, PieFed).

Or a Goodreads (BookWyrm).

Or whatever. There are over 150 different server applications in the Fediverse.

mastodon.social, where you are, is only one of over 10,000 big and small Twitters of the same kind (Mastodon).

If Mastodon was like Discord, all 10,000+ Mastodon servers would run in one and the same gigantic data centre in the USA, owned by Mastodon, Inc. And they would all be property of Mastodon, Inc.

If the Fediverse was like Discord, all 30,000+ Fediverse servers would run in one and the same gigantic data centre in the USA, owned by Mastodon, Inc. And they would all be property of Mastodon, Inc. Also, they would be fully identical in functionality.

But as I've said above: They're all running on their own separate machines. With their own separate owners.

And the different server applications have different developers, and they are being developed independently from one another.

Okay, now comes the kicker: These server applications are not walled up against one another. Not only are all instances of the same server applications (e.g. Mastodon) connected to each other, but all instances of one server application are also connected to all instances of all the other server applications.

Imagine you're on Twitter. But your new friend is on Facebook. You can't follow a Facebook user on Twitter, and you can't follow a Twitter user on Facebook.

In the Fediverse, you can. You can be on Twitter. And follow a Facebook user. Directly from Twitter. Without a Facebook account.

Only that they aren't named Twitter and Facebook in the Fediverse. Twitter is named Mastodon or Pleroma or Akkoma or Misskey or Calckey or Firefish or Iceshrimp or Sharkey or Catodon or... There are dozens of Twitter alternatives in the Fediverse. Well, and Facebook is named Friendica or Hubzilla or (streams) or Forte.

You can be on Mastodon. And you can follow Friendica accounts. From Mastodon. Without a Friendica account.

This comment is a very good example. You are on Mastodon, created by @Eugen Rochko in 2016 as an alternative to Twitter that aimed to be as close to Twitter as possible.

The server that you're on, mastodon.social, is owned by Mastodon, Inc. and running on one or multiple rack servers in San Francisco, California, USA owned by Fastly.

I am on Hubzilla, created by @Mike Macgirvin 🖥️ in 2012 by forking his own Friendica from 2010, and currently mainly maintained by @Mario Vavti and @Harald Eilertsen. Hubzilla has got nothing to do with Mastodon whatsoever. It started out as an alternative to Facebook, but not a clone, rather better than Facebook, with full-blown long-form blogging capability and a built-in file storage, and it has been enhanced greatly in functionality even beyond that.

The server that I'm on, Netzgemeinde, is owned and administered by @Mark Nowiasz, who has no affiliation with the Hubzilla developers, and running on a rack server in Nuremberg, Germany owned by Netcup.

And yet, you can see this comment coming from Hubzilla on Mastodon.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Server #Instance #Mastodon #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Calckey #Firefish #Iceshrimp #Sharkey #Catodon #Meisskey #Tanukey #Neko #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #Pixelfed #PeerTube #Owncast #Lemmy #/kbin #Mbin #PieFed #BookWyrm #NotOnlyMastodon #FediverseIsNotMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse
GeeksforGeeks · What is a Server? - GeeksforGeeksA server is a hardware device or software that processes requests from clients over a network, providing various services such as data sharing, computation, and resource management in a client-server model.

Why I think that #NodeBB's latest release can be a game changer for the #Fediverse

For years, before social media came along, forums were the main place to discuss with others on the internet. Communities were built, thrived, a few survived, most were swallowed by Reddit and Facebook groups.

But there are still many websites/organizations/collectives who need an online space to talk with their members! Newspapers, workers unions, anarchist collectives, football fan clubs - all of those might already be running a forum, or would be open to running one. And now we have a great fedi solution for this, which is primarily a forum, but is also a gateway to the rest of fedi! Especially with the recent crap going on on mainstream social media (Zuckerberg's rightwing turn and Musk openly going full on nazi), I believe there is now an opportunity to suggest this to whatever kind of community you are involved in: "With this platform, we can have a forum for us, but also escape corporate social media!". It is a great idea.

I am a little jealous, to be honest, as this was what I've been saying for years now, what I suggested back in
#Firefish, and what we wanted to do with #Catodon - but I'm not a dev and the projects I've been involved in haven't managed to do much in this direction. @julian got there first - well done!

Check out NodeBB, it's very nicely done, and I'm sure it will only get better, since they just released their first version with ActivityPub support. Think of any group/team you're in touch with that might consider hosting a (federated) forum, and suggest it to them! IMO federated communities are far more suitable and make much more sense for the Fediverse, instead of trying to conceptualize it as a kind of Twitter replacement, and they can serve the target of decentralization much better. Let's spread this!

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Slowly making progress on parts of the site including the Fediverse Hosting. Just need to detail the actual Fediverse Hosting pages, along with the servers such as bikersgo.social and app.southampton.social.

There's obviously so much more work that I've got with vex.blue.

I might have to refactor the whole site in the future but always open to feedback.

https://vex.blue

#Fediverse #FediverseHosting #FediHost #FediHosting #Sharkey #Mastodon #Mbin #FireFish #IceShrimp #PixelFed #Lemmy #Ghost

The dude wouldn't even consider closing registrations or sending traffic over to other instances in any meaningful way, let alone do this - and I suppose you couldn't blame him, I don't think any other Fedi project (leads) have done any different (i.e. obsessing over numbers/growth of their users on their instance, instead of distributing them).

If things go wrong, they might be a repeat of
#Firefish/#Calckey all over again - the only saving grace to #Pixelfed is the fact that there isn't really any alternative to it atm, at least not until #Vernissage comes to fruition in due time, and I really hope they take their time on that and ship it only when it's ready and polished - like they have done with their Pixelfed app, #Impressia.

RE:
https://infosec.exchange/users/thenexusofprivacy/statuses/113852857712656798

Infosec ExchangeThe Nexus of Privacy (@thenexusofprivacy@infosec.exchange)Pixelfed's rapid growth is very exciting. Still, until you have a mod team -- and the underlying software supports mod dashboards and roles -- please consider switching to invite-only registration (and encourage or even require other instances listed on pixelfed.org to do the same). The opportunity isn't going to go away: Meta and Instagram aren't going to get any less evil, so people who are interested now will still be interested one you've got the team and softrware in place. In fact many other social networks have successfully used invite-only phases to build pent-up demand. But a moderation disaster (which is increasingly likely as things grow without the proper tools and teams in place) could permanently damage Pixelfed's reputation in a way that's very hard to recover from. And, until there's good moderation support in the software, you're putting both the people who sign up *and* the people who are hosting instances at risk. @dansup@mastodon.social

Time to look at #selfhosting #Pixelfed again as the mobile app is out and going viral. Always meant to be a big part of my journey in the Fediverse by having full control over my digital presence. Not convinced #Mastodon is an option for self hosting due to complexity but it’s the most mature of the Fediverse platforms and I’m loath to get burned as I was with #FireFish hype. Will be sad to lose Instagram but fuck Meta. I’ve deleted Facebook and WhatsApp in previous years and somehow survived!

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@cliffwade I think it depends. I had a lot of difficulties when I (wrongly) moved from fedia.social to programming.dev. I got account migration errors after I migrated back to fedia.social.

Note that:
a) the programming.dev account was
later deleted safely
b) I'm still on this instance, so barring a fewonths of uncertainty I'm able to use this account just fine now.


I'd highly recommend against migrating back to an account this way. I do not think it's safe on
#Mastodon (it worked this way on #Firefish /#IceShrimp).

Download your post and comment data. Send a message to your audience that you're migrating. Create a new account elsewhere and import stuff over. This is what I'd do if I were you.