@karl_ist_super weil die meisten "#Normies" einfach nur #TechIlliterate #KonsumOpfer sind, denen alles shiceegal ist.

• Dieselben Leute wählen auch #CDU / #CSU & #NSAfD und sind entweder altersbedingt oder aus Verfassungsfeindlichkeit #Letztwähler die sich zumindest innerlich von #Grundgesetz & #FDGO "abgemeldet" haben!

@ajsadauskas @JessTheUnstill @tomiahonen yes, and to add insult to injury #Mozilla didn't even wanted to sell people like @fuchsiii or me a #FirefoxOS device, with the only one being "launched" in the #EU being a #SimLock'd & #NetLock'd #prepaid phone in #Spain one could only attain in-store with all the "#KYC" nonsense they had, demanding a legal address in Spain back then.

• So whilst Firefox OS had the most "#accessible" #Development #tools (literally using #Firefox for it and having every #App as #WebView|s / #HTML5+#JS5+#CSS3 files in a container), they didn't even sold us said devices, making it a worse flop than #UbuntuTouch which at least still gets some devices made that support it...

And #nerds like myself are far from the "#consoomer #Normies" for whom stuff that isn't on shelves at Staturn/MediaMarkt, BestBuy, Walmart, ... doesn't exist. I'm used to importing #tech that I want!

• Feels even more half-assed than #MobileCoin in hindsight…

@georgetakei #Trump was #projecting when he said his critics had #TrumpDerangementSyndrome. #TDS is what differentiates #MAGA cult members from the rest of us '#normies.'

@tauon Actually, you want to use a truly secure as in real #E2EE solution like #XMPP+#OMEMO as in @monocles / #monoclesChat and @gajim /#gajim...

• And for those "#TechIlliterate #Normies / #Consoomers" that are too scared to #degoogle or even use @fdroidorg they have a #GlobalSwitchDay #promo right now:https://monocles.social/@monocles/113925173206088469

@kissane >> I understand, "It's good if the #fediverse stays niche," but that's a solution for a tiny number of people.

@benroyce >> they don't want "the normies"… even picking a server is a step too high for many

Even the dichotomy between #techies and #normies is facile, disrespectful, and uninviting.

@themizzi

@bagder Problem with that is (besides occasional bugfixes), most people including myself would see #curl to be functionally complete and anything "nice to have" would be considered not worth the balooning in #complexity and #size.

• I mean, does curl need to be able to do #BitTorrent (magnet:), #IPFS (ipfs://) or god forbid #blockchain (i.e. #EVM) support?

• Do you really want to integrate @torproject / #Tor support natively into curl when using #HTTP (localhost:8118) and #SOCKS5 (localhost:9050) #proxy allows for the same and doesn't necessitate having to handle and ingest Tor arguments as well??

In fact if #toybox didn't have a #wget implementation that I could use for OS/1337 I would've merely chosen tiny-curl -o as a global alias or if #tinycurl wasn't an option, curl -o instead.

• Maybe someone who wants to have said functionality like tor support built-in will go and IDK make i.e. #neocurl or sth. along those lines or build something like #ethcurl or #torcurlor #ipfscurl or whatever...

That being said I am glad curl isn't solely maintained by you but has other contributors (give them a shoutout!) but I also am glad you maintain that vital software that most "#TechIlliterate #Normies" most likely never heard of but propably use on a daily basis as part of all the #tech they use to #consume media with...

• I consider curl to be "the #vim of downloaders" (tho that's kinda insulting and limiting since curl is more than just a downloader and more intuitive than vim) with wget being "the #vi of downloaders" (tho wget is even simpler to use than vi)...

Either way, curl is awesome...

@rauschma I think the problem most "#TechIlliterates" and "#Normies" have boil down to the fact that they don't want to engage with how the #Fediverse works and that it's closer to #eMail, #UseNet and espechally #RSS and not some algorithmically optimized hellhole that shits #RageBait at them because baking people #doomscroll instead of #bloomscrolling makes their "metric" of #ScreenTime go up.

@proycon #linux users love #thinkpads , they cannot get enough of it. Like #normies with their #mac addition lol

@sixtus #NIUS ist ein ist bestenfalls ein #PopulistischesHetzwerk alla #AxelSpringer wobei ich eher sagen würde dass es #Reichelt's #Trollfabrik ist und als #Pipeline zur #Radikalisierung von #Normies dient!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P55t6eryY3g

@oscherler

>> so shitty that the only way you chose to use the openssl CLI is because you had serious problems to solve

So this IS a call for #normies to be kind to #techies because techies have "been through a few things"

#Techies understand techie struggle, but they don't understand that #normies have to solve serious problems too

My point is that everybody has to solve serious problems, and the techie-normie distinction is facile.

There's no need to seek special treatment

@vwbusguy

@vwbusguy

>> When you meet people that can type out `openssl` commands from sheer memory, be kind to them, because they've been through a few things.

Is that a call to #normies to be kind to #techies, or a call to "members" to be kind to other "members"?

On #Mastodon, #normies have gone through some things too, which is why the distinction is facile. I remember being scorned by some self-identified techies who knew little about me

@taylorlorenz

>> I really hope the #fediverse can get more traction among “normies”… I don’t understand why people jump to #Bluesky when #Mastodon is here and so much better imo!

The problem is the false dichotomy between #techies and #normies. Until that distinction disappears and we all become just "members", the uptake will remain slow.

@kcarruthers